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All of that meant that Walter hadn't worked in a while. So there was that, as well as the noncommercial success of Southern Comfort and Long Riders and the fact that there was a writer's strike. And there was also the scandal around The Warriors any success had been eclipsed by the killings in the theaters.

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He'd had some success, but then he had a series of setbacks. Larry Gross: It was a unique period of frustration, relatively speaking. I certainly made it unmistakably clear to him that I knew his films well and indicated that I was a fan, but I never raised the question of working for him.Д«lake Harris: And what was going on in Walter's career at the time? During that time, we discussed movies, we discussed politics and we discussed women but we never discussed work. And around that time, by a series of social accidents, I went to dinner with Walter Hill. Larry Gross: The point is that those two rewrites on real movies, the fact of them, got my name around.

Which was First Blood (the first Rambo movie).

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And even though the movie had almost no release, it then led to Ted hiring me to do a similar production rewrite for a good deal more money on the next film he did. So I went on location and worked with them. It was a real movie with a real cast and it was shooting. And through that, for various reasons having to do with the writers strike in 1982, Kotcheff asked me to rewrite a script for him that was in production: Split Image. That script got as far as to have a director attached: Ted Kotcheff. Larry Gross: The script that kept getting me meetings was called The Bartender, and it really was like a flat-out imitation of Walter Hill's The Driver, in a way. While working or Greene, Gross also continued writing screenplays on spec. The job entailed working for a British television director named David Greene, who was coming off of two historically high-rated miniseries: Roots and Rich Man, Poor Man. And then what happened in my case was sort of three things happened at once: 1) I had an unhappy love affair 2) I had a very painful breakup with my writing partner 3) my brother got a development job out west, in television, for ABC.

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Larry Gross: During my first two years after college, I didn't really know how to make the transition. With this path in mind, Gross saw as many films as possible during his teenage years and then, in college, started writing screenplays with a friend. I would take my knowledge of film history and become a great filmmaker, like they did. I had this thing mapped out where I'd become a great filmmaker like those critics had been. So the idea was planted early on that I would become one of those guys. And early on, I learned about the cinephiles who had become filmmakers.

Larry Gross: Well, the first idea in my mind was that I wanted to pass myself off as an authority on movies. After that happened, movies fully took over for me.Д«lake Harris: As a viewer, or were you thinking about making films yourself? I was kind of a mild prodigy at basketball, but as I got older, I submitted to 'White Men Can't Jump' syndrome and I failed to develop. I played basketball with older people when I was a kid. People have different sociological habits or dreams, and my sociological dream, as it were, was to be around older people. Larry Gross: Occasionally I would drag my parents with me, but generally these were very solitary experiences for me.

Blake Harris: Would you go alone, or did you have friends with similar interests?

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